• @ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    184•2 months ago

    Rebecca ass is shockingly tame for old James Bond

    Pussy Galore is unironically a character name in Goldfinger (1964)

    • @archonet@lemy.lolEnglish
      52•2 months ago

      I like that, even in-universe, in 1964, Bond’s first reaction to that name is “I must be dreaming”. So it’s not like the filmmakers weren’t aware of how absurd that name is. They just didn’t give a shit.

      • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
        25•2 months ago

        I never read them, but the filmakers were just adapting books by Ian Fleming into movies after they found out how successful they were doing. 50 shades of grey was based off a Fan Fiction novel wasn’t it? And those movies came out what I would consider recently.

        I think mainstream media just converted Bond into an Icon that was supposed to be more upstanding than he originally was meant to be.

        The lastest plays on Bond were the Kingsman. Where a princess tells the main character he can fuck her in the asshole if he saves the world, and he just basically says brb.

        • @archonet@lemy.lolEnglish
          19•2 months ago

          Yeah, but book Bond and movie Bond are two rather different Bonds. I think Timothy Dalton probably got closest to depicting the literary Bond onscreen, but in so many words: the books are a fair bit darker in tone than some of the movies, and secondly (something Dalton thankfully did not channel), they’re exceedingly racist. Yes, even more racist than You Only Live Twice let’s-make-Sean-Connery-Japanese racism. One chapter of Live and Let Die set in Harlem NY is titled, I shit you not, “[n-word] Heaven”.

          • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
            13•2 months ago

            Connery was the one they asked if he slapped his wife around and responded something like your damn right I did, and if you ask her, she’ll tell you she deserved it. The public was fine with that response, and Fleming wrote the Bond series years before. I looked it up to double check, Fleming was born 12 years before Women got the right to vote. And he died around the time the Jim Crow laws were abolished. Racism and Sexism were likely very prevelant in his life.

      • @brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1•2 months ago

        Apparently they wouldn’t have been allowed to use that character name, except between writing the script and the studio approving it, the name had already been published by the press. So they had their community reaction to it already known, and the public expected it when the film was to be released.

    • @HakunaHafada@lemm.ee
      35•2 months ago

      Aside from Pussy Galore, another favorite inappropriate Bond moment I enjoy is from The Man with the Golden Gun. Bond approaches an Asian woman skinny dipping in a pool and asks her for her name.

      She responds: “Chew Mee”

      Bond: “Really!?..”

  • Stamets
    57•2 months ago

    And this is why I’m not bothered by Amazon taking it over.

    James Bond has always been bizarre with tone. Each Bond is different. As long as they’re not as Bourne-y as Craig’s then I’ll be fine. But them stealing bonds quips and gadgets and women… The fuck? You made British Jason Bourne with more trauma and less of an ability to cope with it.

    • @Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
      37•2 months ago

      As long as they’re not as Bourne-y as Craig’s…

      Yeah. The Venn diagram of good Bond has a bit of Austin Powers and Inspector Gadget overlap, not Bourne.

      • @solrize@lemmy.ml
        15•2 months ago

        Craig was more like the Bond books I thought? A few of the earlier ones like On Her Majesty’s Secret Service followed the books, but the rest were way out there. I don’t think I’ve seen any of the Craig films all the way through though. I saw part of one on TV.

        • @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
          10•2 months ago

          The Craig films certainly showed the more cold, gritty side of Bond that was portrayed in the books, but that wasn’t really the intent of the earlier films. The earlier films were made more lighthearted and fun on purpose, really only following the books for the basic story. Even Brosnan’s Bond still kept a bit of the whimsical nature to an extent, though they certainly were catering to the 90s action audience. Craig’s Brosnan more crossed into psychological thriller in my opinion, and I wasn’t too big on them.

          • @MimicJar@lemmy.world
            6•2 months ago

            whimsical nature

            Which is why my favorite Daniel Craig Bond moment is the Casino Royale naked torture scene. Bond telling the torturer to hit him again, then laughing because he’s “scratching my balls” is peak whimsy (within the new Bond universe).

            I want my Bond to be a bit silly, and that was sadly the only time they did it.

            • @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
              3•2 months ago

              100% agree. Half the reason I love the old Bond movies was because they were so goofy, along with some good action scenes and a fun storyline. The new stuff just strikes me as big budget boxoffice grabs. They aren’t bad, but they aren’t 007. That said, the newer Casino Royale was miles better than the 1967 version. I love Peter Sellers, but that movie tried way too hard and failed miserably.

    • @moakley@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7•2 months ago

      Craig has actually said that the serious tone was a reaction to Austin Powers existing. It was too on the nose.

  • @MNByChoice@midwest.social
    25•2 months ago

    Sometimes I wonder if all the James Bonds are the same person, or if “James Bond” is like “The Dread Pirate Roberts”.

    Poor fella lost his wife on his wedding day. He has loads of trama of his own.