Fucking depraved. In a just world, every single person involved would get a one-way trip to barbara-pit

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    1081 month ago

    lol remember when Obama tried to pass bare minimum legislation to slightly curb the worst predatory excesses of these butchers and all the hogs rose up en masse to defend them?

    Conservatism is an open death cult (liberalism is more of a stealth death cult that doesn’t show its true face until you’ve bought in for a few years)

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    781 month ago

    The person who killed Brian Thompson committed an act of self defense. Nobody would have any qualms saying so if Thompson was randomly shooting people out on the streets, and then that person killed him. So why does that change when the murder weapon become legal forms?

    • AernaLingus [any]
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      411 month ago

      “There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

      –Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

  • iie [they/them, he/him]
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    591 month ago

    the title of the Guardian article is weirdly subdued, considering what follows. There were UnitedHealth staff physically on-site to prevent people from receiving care.

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      Not saying you’re wrong or anything, but comments like these always feel like a colossal understatement to me, having been recently personally involved with the unfeeling horror of this healthcare system dealing with someone who is near terminal, and then terminally ill.

      As in, I don’t personally believe it should qualify as manslaughter, I think it should qualify those responsible as irredeemable fodder you can freely slay without guilt. Like, faceless bad guy in a video game status.

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    371 month ago

    It’s legal to put out a hit on someone if you’re a health insurance company

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    211 month ago

    That isn’t exactly what the arrticle says, which is:

    Two current and three former UnitedHealth nurse practitioners told the Guardian that UnitedHealth managers pressed nurse practitioners to persuade Medicare Advantage members to change their “code status” to DNR even when patients had clearly expressed a desire that all available treatments be used to keep them alive.

    So we don’t really know that it was ever changed without consent.

    • @gaja@lemm.ee
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      111 month ago

      Could you clarify how that deviates from the title? I’m having trouble seeing the difference here. I think the emphasis is on the word “pressure.” They did not have consent.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        21 month ago

        That would imply they didn’t ask the people or went against their response. We don’t rven know if or how many people they marked as DNR.

    • hellinkilla [comrade/them]
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      21 month ago

      The title of the post reads

      UnitedHealth secretly pressured nurses to change patients’ records to include DNRs (Do Not Resuscitate) without their consent, so they would die instead of being saved with medical interventions

      Which is only slightly more terse way of saying the same thing.

      The only question to me is so what extent this is a “secret”.