*tips fedora*
Man can’t even explain why he understands her pain without shitheads like you mocking them. He never said her pain was lesser, he was explaining his own pain, grow some empathy
Edit:actually I’m not fucking done. This is why men suffer in silence, this is why we avoid therapy our problems are mocked, emotional trauma and mental illness are character flaws instead of something to be treated when men have them
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Woman: I am experiencing pain.
Power: Bah, you’re just complaining because you’re a woman.
Man: I too am experiencing pain.
Power: Bah, you’re just complaining because you’re a woman.
Transwoman: I too am experiencing pain. Hunh… Maybe I am a woman.
Power: Nope, you’re just complaining because you’re a wom-, uh… man…? Er, wait… how do we patronize you? What the…?
Transman: I also –
Power: Stop! Just… Stop thinking and feed the machine that makes us powerful, damn it! Fuck’s sake, this was so much simpler when we could just claim divine right.
Yeah no that has nothing to do with the comic
The comic is seemingly intentionally ambiguous as an attempt to provoke consideration.
Definitely filters sexists out that’s for sure
I feel like if this was a specific character going “wait that’s not normal lol” the joke would land better. But as it is the only frame of reference we have is one representing women and one representing men.
And it just all falls flat because women can have mental illnesses too? And yes men are forced to repress it more often but women often have their physical or mental health dismissed or ignored so it’s not much better either way.
I’m trans so I’ll never face a period but I can’t imagine the agony of going through one in addition to a mental health crisis or other sickness. And it’s not like women get “period days off” of work or school so you’re just expected to push through it.
Why are you all bitching women aren’t even real
Just like birds
That’s why the brits call them that.
Misogynistic drivel.
Woman: I’m suffering
Man: I have it worse!
Shut the fuck up and listen. If someone says they’re suffering you pay attention to their problems not make it a contest.
Unless they are a man, of course, then they should just get a therapist.
You do undermine your own point a bit by trivializing men’s suffering in the same breath as demanding nobody trivialize suffering.
The comic is bullshit for sure but you did exactly the same thing it did.
He ignored her suffering and diminished it saying that for 5 days a month she feels what he deals with every day. He’s ignoring her point and one-upping her. That’s toxic behaviour that doesn’t help anything.
That he is also suffering is a separate conversation that also needs to take place but that’s a different conversation. The first step is resolving conflict is by listening to the other person’s point of view, not dismissing it as less important.
So you’re just ignoring the part where the woman says that the man doesn’t understand? That’s the whole reason why he says how he feels. He’s not just saying that to undermine her struggle. He’s explaining why he thinks he understands her better than she thinks.
It’s about depression you git. Does he have “all men” tattooed on his fucking forehead? It’s one dude. You sound extremely hypocritical
Also OP is a new account with only posts and no comments. Lots of red flags.
Why would we listen, you just did the opposite. No empathy for those who don’t show any.
What the person you replied to is correct regardless of the genders involved. When someone brings up a problem to you, it’s a rude thing to immediately respond in ways that make it about you and your own pain. There’s a line between sharing your own experiences to establish understanding and empathy and making it the pain Olympics.
Especially in this comic, the man couldn’t possibly understand how it feels to have the unfortunate symptoms that come from having periods, and he instantly equates putting up with his partner during their period as equivalent. It’s eye rolling on multiple levels.
He never made it about him. You made it about him. Where did he equate it to putting up with her? He didn’t, you did. He only explained how he could in fact understand her pain. You are saying he can never express his pain, he can only agree with her, pure bigotry
Did you consider that the comic is making fun of misogynists?
Longhair: explains problem they insist short-haired can’t understand
Short hair: explains he does and why, revealing deep emotional damage underneath
You: MY SOGGY KNEEEEES!
I had not considered that, so thanks for pointing that out. Upon checking the comic more closely, I don’t get any hint that it’s making fun of misogynists, but it’s certainly possible.
If so, it’s shockingly ineptly done though
Then explain OP’s title.
It’s a meme.
Conversely, empath the fuck up and don’t push your problems on someone who also has them. Both struggles, as minor as they could be, are valid.
Men will literally menstruate 24/7 instead of going to therapy
Fake news we also have 40k lore
Dude. No need to call us out like that.
In America therapy costs a lot of money and you get no guarantee you’ll see someone competent.
So is the answer to give up or keep trying?
yes, because I will be extra sad if I cant afford rent.
The answer is to fight for a healthcare system that covers all health (including mental) instead of trying to be the most effective funnel of money from the poor into the coffers of the rich.
Sadly, the people who are most lacking in mental health support are largely the ones who actively fight against such a structure (because propaganda works).
Tell me how we do that exactly? Just keep voting and hope that some kind of policy goes through and hopefully before you finally blow your brains out?
You seem to think that box #2 is the last hope. I’m not ready to give up on that one yet. But if things get so bad that the ballot box truly doesn’t matter any more, we still have two more to defend liberty with. I hope we never again need the fourth box.
Throwing your hands in the air and saying “it’s too rigged, there’s no hope” is exactly what the opps want.
I am not giving up. But just shrugging and say ‘go see a therapist’ is useless.
Very true and I speak from experience. Still worth it to try, if you need help. I did eventually find one that helped me a lot.
Men will literally
menstruatefap 24/7 instead of going to therapyIf anyone is mentruating 24/7, I would suggest the hospital.
Men will literally masturbate 24/7 instead of going to therapy
ftfy lol
OK, why do you think they need to masturbate 24/7 in the first place?
I mean…. have you tried it?
It’s pretty great!
You’re not doing anything by saying “go to therapy.” If you really cared, pay for someone’s therapy.
Lemmy: MISOGYNY!
Meanwhile, me, a dumdum: Damn the author has experienced critically low self-esteem…or the joke is as fun as a rock in the field.
Like, either it’s self-depreciating/edgy humor or it’s not humor at all lol.
I immediately understood it to be a description of severe depression. If a neurotypical person suddenly experiences a low from a period similar to a depressed person’s average day, why is it suddenly misogyny?
Because the depressed person is a man, there are many people who still treat mental illness and emotional trauma as character flaws, but only when men have them, otherwise it’s all about listening and believing. Tl;dr: sexism against men is far more rampant and casually accepted than people think
I’ve noticed that I cannot see images hosted on lemmy.zip unless I visit it manually, what could be causing this?
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Yeah, but I enabled cookies for lemmy.zip then solved the captcha and images from there still don’t show up.
That won’t help if your browser is set up to not allow websites to access third-party cookies.
Huh, I didn’t know about this. I have no clue what could be the issue, although the captcha theory sounds reasonable. I’m sure the lemmy.zip admins would appreciate it if you let them know about this issue (unless they already do know about it (: )
I have a similar problem but different instances or file types and I also don’t understand.
some block my vpn, others don’t block it outright but i have to solve a captcha first via cloudflare
this is fuckin dumb
Basically the bear/man post
what
Yuck. Lemmy has a misogynistic streak and this bullshit doesn’t help. The account is less than a day old and I’m wondering if I should block it now or wait and see what else they post…
Edit: there’s no joke here. He’s saying that men experience an amount of stress equivalent to menstruation on a daily basis. And that is staggeringly pathetic. Women deal with this pain and discomfort one week a month and still manage to live fulfilling lives. Men don’t have that the added physical burden and still can’t achieve emotional regulation and fulfillment?
Who’s the weaker sex again?
You are the weaker sex if you’ve twisted SEVERE LIFE ALTERING DEPRESSION as competition, grow some empathy you sexist trash
I find it interesting that your position is that mens lives are free from repeated stresses. Yes women have menstruation but you seem to be implying that that is the only reason for someone to be emotionally unregulated. Maybe men are just literally emotionally unstable by default. If there is a genetic predisposition for emotional dysfunction are men still evil for not being able to control their emotions? Do we know everything there is to know about the human mind or physiology? Because I don’t believe we do. It is certainly interesting that there is such a mountain of evidence that men cannot control their emotions in the same manner as women but the response is always and only “suck it up” and “it’s societies fault” and never “perhaps there is a deeper reason.”
Additionally and more on topic, the comics talking about one dude personal experience. Why have you generalized it into being descriptive of all men. Sounds like misandry.
you’re right, I haven’t experienced menstruation. however, your comment makes me feel like shit and makes me irritable.
He’s not saying anything about men generally, YOU are.
The man in this comic is talking about himself, not men. Do you think it’s not possible for a man to feel the level of stress a woman feels from her period, as his baseline due to mental health issues? If I’m a severely distressed or depressed man, there’s not a world where my daily average is on par or worse than a woman on her period?
Can you put your own lived experience on any higher of a pedestal over others?
lol
Anyone defending this “comic” looks like a lunatic. I can’t take anything you say seriously.
If thinking men can have mental health issues on par with menstrual stress makes me a lunatic, then I guess that I am a lunatic sweetie 🤘🥰
I love the comments demonstrating exactly how men’s mental health issues are marginalised, ignored and treated with contempt.
BTW, international men’s day is November 19th, and no one gives a shit.
I give a shit. Stop saying no one gives a shit, it’s not true. The media powers put those words together, stop repeating the lie they sell you.
Give a shit
Having once been a part of reddits /menslib. I can safely say that if that is the best we can do then its hopeless.
Menslib is a cesspit, pure controlled opposition.
Lots of arguing here who has it worse. Hard to get objective comparisons.
I suppose asking post-op trans people might be the best way to come closest to objective information on the subject. Wonder if the data from transfemmes and transmascs would be significantly different.
Depression from being forced to grow up the opposite gender entirely removes my objectivity on this topic. Cis men don’t experience that same feeling so I can’t comment on what they feel.
I can say I personally feel a lot better as a woman though.
Also, cis women can stop their periods. My roommate has a thing injected in their arm for birth control that also fully stops their periods for (iirc) ~5 years.
Also I saw online that if you skip a dose of pill birth control before your period you can also skip the period, but I don’t have a uterus so I can’t confirm if that’s true loledit: This topic is a lot more complicated than I thought it was. I apologize.
Cis man, lifelong treatment resistant depression here, I might not understand disphoria, but I sure as shit know depression. It’s why my primary emotions are empty void and the repressed rage from a lifetime of being told to “get over it”
Saying cis women can just stop their periods if they feel like it is a vast over simplification. Birth control fucks with your hormones often in very unpredictable ways. My friend had a light period for like 3 months straight due to her birth control and the doctors said that was fine and normal. In me, birth control triggered treatment resistant suicidal depression that I deal with to this day. In my sister, it gave wild mood swings and general emotional instability. My other sister was just plain allergic to it.
It’s dangerous for women to go on hormonal birth control even though it’s so common and normalized. Women’s Healthcare in the USA is so hit or miss, and doctors are often uninformed or dismissive. Maybe you live elsewhere where it’s better?
Please understand that periods are absolutely not optional. Even a complete hysterectomy (not that many of us could be granted one anyway) would trigger early menopause which is its own host of issues.
I had no idea it was so different for different people. I did not mean to downplay your issues at all, I apologize
Yeah birth control is a real crapshoot sometimes, my sister got the arm thing and it sent her into menopause at 35 so it had to be removed
I’ve noticed a trend (at least in online spaces I’ve been in) that trans women are much more present and vocal about their experiences than trans men. Do you have any observations on that topic? I wonder if trans women are simply more numerous, or perhaps trans men have more reasons to not be so vocal, e.g., ingrained shyness etc.
I know that on Lemmy specifically the number of trans women is significantly higher than the number of trans men, iirc Tumblr Pinterest and bluesky are places that trans men tend to be more dominant.
There is also a point that there’s not much about men that women don’t already know compared to the VAST amount of things that men don’t know about women.
So when someone switches gender the transfems tend to have a lot more learning and will overshare their experiences to help prevent the struggle for the next transfems that come along.though obviously that’s not to downplay the issues that trans men experience, there’s a lot of things that I thought were obvious that my transmasc friends had no idea about
I’m going to HARD disagree on women knowing more about men, I was raised surrounded by women, two sisters, single mother, three aunts, all cousins but one are women in my generation too, and they had no idea what to do with us, plenty of women still think an erection means consent for God’s sake
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Yeah, yeah. What do you think the origin of the word menstruation is?
It’s men + frustration.
booo
Agreed
