• DivineChaos100 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    3 days ago

    A centralized state can take out CEOs more effectively but those apparatuses can be turned on regular citizens.

    Not just can but are turned on them regularly, even in AES states, but that’s a harsh truth not a lot of MLs are willing to face.

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          It’s a pathetic, intellectually impoverished attempt at a zinger that has nothing to do with what people here or Marxists in general actually believe, which explains why liberals eat it up.

          How is it that you’ve been in the community for as long as you have and still are either unwilling or unable to engage with what the Marxists here believe? Granted, the majority of Marxists here are revisionists, but at least they still support the Marxist conception of communism even if their ideas about socialism are inadequate, but that inadequacy is fundamentally not as you portrayed it. Your portrayal was just empty grandstanding with a declaration that is contrary to what people here have said again and again and would readily tell you if asked. But you have surely seen that, haven’t you? So why do you still say it?

    • ConcreteHalloween [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      I mean, yes, that is true, but I don’t think there’s an alternative. The state is a means for one class to oppress another, until class society is abolished you can’t not have a state apparatus, so even if proletariat states fuck up sometimes and kill people they shouldn’t it’s the only means to end the dictatorship of the bourgeois.