Hate this movie trope. Especially for ranged infantry. 300 archers with burning arms holding drawn bows as their commander waits for the first salvo to be point blank.
“Sir, they’ve been in range for 100 yards. We could’ve fired three salvos by now…”
I havent seen this movie in years, but i believe these are two different events. The “HOLD” is when theyre being rushed by the calvary and they have the spears (sharpened tree branches) laying on the ground in front of them. He waits for the horses to get close enough so they can’t stop when all the spears pop up, impaling the horses, and launching their riders into the crowd to be destroyed.
Yes, this original scene was about hiding their spears against oncoming cavalry. I’m not sure of what @saltesc@lemmy.world is referring to but that is entirely something else.
The smart ones have relaxed their arms, he’s always like that and they’d have to keep adjusting their arc as the enemy approached anyway. They can raise, pull and let fly in the time everyone else takes 2 steps, since they aren’t shooting for accuracy until the battle comes right at them
Are there historical cases of archer “squad leaders” quickly adjusting their angle after calling pull and before loose? Genuinely curious, I’ve never really thought about it before
The entire idea of calling pull and loose and all that is a Hollywood thing. Yeah they were probably given commands about when to shoot, but these bows were incredibly difficult to keep drawn.
I always hated that Team Fortress 2 pulled that realism. The Sniper is meant to watch angles for a short while, and yet try to use his badass bow for that, and he’ll eventually lose strength and cause the shot to go wide.
I’m pretty sure there wouldnt be independent pull and lose commands. Traditional bows are drawn and fired in a single motion. It wasn’t until modern compound bows that it was practical to hold a drawn bow.
Hate this movie trope. Especially for ranged infantry. 300 archers with burning arms holding drawn bows as their commander waits for the first salvo to be point blank.
“Sir, they’ve been in range for 100 yards. We could’ve fired three salvos by now…”
“HOLD!”
I havent seen this movie in years, but i believe these are two different events. The “HOLD” is when theyre being rushed by the calvary and they have the spears (sharpened tree branches) laying on the ground in front of them. He waits for the horses to get close enough so they can’t stop when all the spears pop up, impaling the horses, and launching their riders into the crowd to be destroyed.
Yes, this original scene was about hiding their spears against oncoming cavalry. I’m not sure of what @saltesc@lemmy.world is referring to but that is entirely something else.
Just the concept of abandoning your line and full on charge into a disorganized brawl with the enemy is a Hollywood myth.
But what if it was a bunch of nerds charging a discount line!
Also the scene above is the Scots bracing with pike line. Not that the spears used were in any way accurate.
The smart ones have relaxed their arms, he’s always like that and they’d have to keep adjusting their arc as the enemy approached anyway. They can raise, pull and let fly in the time everyone else takes 2 steps, since they aren’t shooting for accuracy until the battle comes right at them
Are there historical cases of archer “squad leaders” quickly adjusting their angle after calling pull and before loose? Genuinely curious, I’ve never really thought about it before
The entire idea of calling pull and loose and all that is a Hollywood thing. Yeah they were probably given commands about when to shoot, but these bows were incredibly difficult to keep drawn.
I always hated that Team Fortress 2 pulled that realism. The Sniper is meant to watch angles for a short while, and yet try to use his badass bow for that, and he’ll eventually lose strength and cause the shot to go wide.
Honestly me neither, I don’t think historical accuracy was the goal of that movie. So I was just blethering
I’m pretty sure there wouldnt be independent pull and lose commands. Traditional bows are drawn and fired in a single motion. It wasn’t until modern compound bows that it was practical to hold a drawn bow.