Does it even make a difference? Would much appreciate some suggestions.
The Voyager app now defaults to lemmy.zip. I really like sh.itjust.works fwiw.
I also can vouch for sh.itjust.works. They have a fair defederation policy and has only gone down a couple times in the two years I’ve been using it. When it has the admin has been quick to address it and provides updates via a matrix chat.
The one downside is that some more niche domains have
degenerateddefederated (thanks autocorrect) from us due to the open enrolment we have (beehaw comes directly to mind). I recall someone linking a website that tracked what servers are federated with each other but I can’t find it now unfortunately.I went here after i read .ee is shutting down , most of the stuff i followed back there i can follow from here
We welcome you to the fold! I tried a few instances when I joined a couple years back but basically never use my alts because SJW ‘just works’ :) I hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
Thanks a ton , i liked .ee culture , hope to have some of the same weirdness here too
I’m really out of the loop. Why is lemm.ee shutting down? I thought it was one of the more sizeable instances.
Admin team was too small and they couldnt find a replacements for people that were leaving , its a ungrateful job i guess ?
Is beehaw still around? I had no idea. I thought they defederated from everyone then I assumed they died out.
They only block lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, and a few small servers.
Its honestly a really pleasant place to be – I see no negativity there.
Oh no! Not beehaw!
I recall someone linking a website that tracked what servers are federated with each other but I can’t find it now unfortunately.
i think you might be referring to Fediseer?
I’m thinking between Zip and db0… I can’t decide 😁
I was too comfortable with lemme.ee (AKA less drama overall than your favorite Lemmy instance) but now I need to deal with this…
Well, I knew from the beginning, that the fediverse works this way, if any we should be grateful we were given a good window to migrate (former fmhy user here lol), and honestly it makes sense, each instance can’t last forever… Not even big sites like Reddit will.
That’s where I went too. Main goal was to not end up on an instance that is too tolerant of the tankie triad. Time will tell, but so far so good.
One thing you should do is grab your data for easy moving, you haven’t already.
Assuming you’re using the default Lemmy web UI (not Voyager, or Photon, or a mobile app, or whatever), click on your username in the top right, and select “Settings”.
On the settings page, there’s a section called “Import/Export Settings”. Click the “Export” button and let your browser download the file.
Then, when you switch instances, you can go into the same Settings page on the new instance, select the file you downloaded, and hit “Import” and you will automatically be resubscribed to the communities you subscribed to.
Wow didn’t know this was an option. Need to migrate my off of lemm.ee then. Thanks for the heads up.
Thank you so so much for showing how to export it. I didn’t want to have to start from scratch in trying to figure out who I followed and who I didn’t. Appreciate it once and again.
Great, I am using voyager. How do I achieve the same goal?
You’ll have to use a browser. Navigate to lemm.ee/settings.
Done that, now how do change servers? Feel free to direct me to tech support if this is not your idea of fun
Press the export button and save the file to your device.
Now find a new instance and import that file.
Edit: follow-up questions welcome
Create a new account on the new server. You can do it in Voyager and just pick a server from the list, or go to that server’s website in a browser.
Later on when you successfully sign up on a different Lemmy instance just go into your new user’s profile settings again (exactly how you just did for https://lemm.ee/settings but it’ll be [YOUR-NEW-LEMMY-INSTANCE]/settings, in there under “Import/Export Settings” look for the Import section and there you can import the file you just exported.
PS - For a quick overview of Lemmy instances you can check out https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active&open=true and/or https://join-lemmy.org/instances
just find another instance and make an account there, I just moved from lemm.ee cause lemmy.today was recommended in the comments on a post about the shutdown.
Voyager doesn’t have the ability to do this in the app, you will have to use a browser
If you have a favorite community you might take a look at the instance they’re hosted out of.
Beyond that, my general advice is to sort Lemmy instances by number of active users, then pick one that’s somewhere between the 10th and 20th largest.
https://lemmy.zip/ is the closest imo.
I see a few people recommending lemmygrad, lemmy.ml and hexbear, I don’t really think you’d enjoy those servers too much unless you are interested in leftism/communism.
also, people will assume you’re a tankie just because your name ends with .ml 😞
Only CIA.World users sauy that stuff.
cia.world gave me a giggle
problem being?
I catch strays because I’m on .ml but I’m not a tankie (I’m left libertarian like Chomsky)
I think everyone who sees Chomsky in a positive overall light should read On Chomsky.
What if I just really like Captain Fantastic?
Tankies are delulu
Marxists tend to be consistently correct and ahead of the curve, thanks to the analytical tool of Dialectical Materialism.
Marxists aren’t the same as tankies
“Tankie” is a pejorative for Marxist, just like “commie” and “pinko.”
Tankies are a specific type of internet communist that support oppressive, authoritarian regimes.
most coherent dronie joins the discussion
I’m a part of Lemmy.zip for a few months now. Great server with transparent admins who post about server updates and such. It’s tech-oriented as an instance, but it’s federated, so you still have access to all other servers. I’m a computer nerd, hence why I picked it.
Yeah, lemmy.zip is great.
In the same boat, though I’ve been here for almost 2 years lol
What do you look for in an instance? Many different instances with different uses and needs.
Where would I find a way to know if an instance aligned with what I wanted or not? I’m supposed to personally find and explore a bunch of different ones?
Ive recently stumbled on Fediseer, where instances can give recommendations, censures and hesitations to other instances. every instance also has its own page with their self-description, stats, recommendations, censures, etc. might be a helpful tool to narrow down the potential instances.
That’s a good tip, it’s a good idea to subscribe to a Lemmy instance that participates in Fediseer (IMO). It helps to keep spammy instances off your own instance hence lower spam posts overall.
A lot of spammers tend to spin up their own Lemmy instances just to spam the rest of the Fediverse, or they’ll create a ton of new accounts on an instance with lax admin/moderation to use for spam later.
You don’t even need to browse the Fediseer website directly, pretty much all Lemmy instances participating in Fediseer will have the “Guarantor” and “Endorsements” links in the sidebar of their homepage.
There’s the “Join Lemmy” tool that shows a list of instances, you can click on them and see if they fit what you want.
join-lemmy.org/ has a list of instances.
have you checked out the porn one? some guy posted like 20 pictures of his dick
Was that someone you?
you can join lemdro.id if you want
Sh.itjust.works and lemmy.zip, not sure if shitjustworks is general purpose actually
But yeah I signed up for multiple before so id have aged accounts in case my main one went away
sdf.org instance is awesome.
Y’all have a Gemini page too right?
If you have a favorite community, move to its instance - /All is showing what all the people on your instance are subscribed to so if you’re on an instance with people you like, c/All will probably have more things you like. Also /Local shows you local posts from your instance which is cool if you’re on a theme instance.
A really small instance may have less /All content (but if you’re on any instance over 500 people it’s probably plenty)
- Sincerely, a pawb.social user
Just keep in mind you might have to instance hop again if your chosen instance goes down, but that’s OK.
Hmm. Do any of the apps allow you to seamlessly manage more than one?
Most do yes, since that’s how Lemmy works in general
The default web frontend has no such provision. If SDF is down I have to go and navigate to my backup instance like a peasant.
Maybe I should switch to an app. The only trick is that I’ll have to hack it a little bit to make sure it always launches over Tor. Unless I get on Qubes soon.
Well yeah a web front-end wouldn’t have that as it’s intrinsically tied to the instance lol
I know. I was slightly butthurt at the suggestion I’m Lemmying wrong, though. Without third party software, movement between instances isn’t seamless right now, just possible.
Oh, lol definitely didn’t mean to imply that haha, was just saying all the apps I’ve tried (I literally only use mobile to access Lemmy) have the ability to add and swap between accounts on different instances :)
I’m new to this but I’ve found Voyager has served me really well so far. I have two accounts now lemm.ee is going.
Does it provide a way to sync subscriptions across as well?
I believe so. If you click the cog wheel (settings) in voyager and scroll down you have an option to backup / restore and I would assume you could use that?
Most Lemmy apps support switching quickly between instances.
In theory, this could ease the transition when an instance closes, I guess.
In reality, the Internet is for pornography.
It presumably makes it easier to quickly switch between porn-free and porn-full subscription sets.
I say “Presumably”, because I’m above all that… here on my non-porn account.
Plus…there’s probably someone here who carefully separates their Linux Lemmys into one account and their railway and mass transit news Lemmys into another.
Good to know!
Might i recommend lemmynsfw.com?
I switched to pie fed mainly because of the options including one to not blur nsfw as a lot of folks bar for nsfw is like way lower than mine.
Can piefed be accessed through voyager? I heard people talking about it as a good way to avoid all the tankies, but I couldn’t find it on the instance search within voyager.
Not yet, no.
if your using an interface then the options may not matter I think since the app would control visuals. Again I think.
The only difference is the administration of the instance (their activeness, beliefs and how they choose to moderate), what instances they federated or defederated with (like hexbear and lemmygrad), and what features they’ve chosen to implement or not (like downvotes). For casual use, it probably doesn’t make a difference.
I’m just now realizing my primary account is here on .ee as well. I have one with lemmy.one and midwest.social but I’ll probably make a new one somewhere else like dbzero unless they’re still federated with hexbear since .one doesn’t use downvotes and I have constant connection issues with midwest.social.
unless they’re still federated with hexbear
coward
I was under the impression that any server will have access to any instance? Is that not the case? Do some of them limit ? I would we looking for the one that limits nothing
A server can decide what servers it’s connected to. It can have a blacklist of blocked instances - or even go further and have a whitelist of allowed instances, blocking all else.
Such a feature is necessary to deal with issues like spam instances, or instances that host illegal content.
One of the things I like a lot about lemme.ee is that they have blocked very few instances.
https://lemmy.zip/ has a similar federation policy, they have hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml user-blocked by default, but this can be disabled.
Many block only hexbear and lemmygrad because they are just propaganda machines. Mostly they were left unblocked until their users started to invade other instances to spread their blatant propaganda.
I think if it like an ad block. On lemm.ee, I blocked them both on my own anyway because I found them obnoxious.
If you go to the main page website of an instance and scroll all the way to the bottom, there should be an “instances” button that will tell you which instances are federated and which are blocked. I figure the default page is like lemme.ee/instances or sopuli.xyz/instances for example.
edit: I’ve upset the .ml Also, you’ll see most have chapo.chat is also on the blocked list because it is Hexbear when Hexbear lost their server or something
No greater sin than being right too early
Counter-hegemonic ideas are “propaganda”; hegemonic ideas are just “common sense”.
Right here is a perfect example of why hexbear is defederated from most other instances. You used to see posts filled with dozens of annoying and abusive comments/gifs like this before instances started defederating. They love to act like The_Donald and travel around in packs, flinging feces all over every comment section they come across.
abusive gifs
That’s not what happened, actually. Hexbear, for example, wasn’t federated with anyone for years until it started federating, and servers like Lemmy.world defederated before being federated. Lemmygrad.ml is fairly broadly federated, but gives the illusion of being widely defederated because Lemmy.world also defederated from them, as Lemmy.world admins are anti-Marxist (just read the reasons they gave for defederation).
They aren’t any more or less propaganda than other instances, they are different in alignment, ie Hex is Anarchist/Marxist (general) and Lemmygrad is Marxist-Leninist.
Every web forum is a propaganda machine, the whole point of a web forum is to convey ideas and information.
Mostly they were left unblocked until their users started to invade other instances to spread their blatant propaganda.
isn’t the entire point of a federated platform that you’re going to be able to access other instances?
istg people hit the block button like they’re mashing the independent thought alarm
isn’t the entire point of a federated platform that you’re going to be able to access other instances?
Yes, but the point isn’t to connect to every instance.
Curated instances and smaller networks within the fediverse were always thought of.
Yeah, but it’s weird to be complaining about people using /all and finding content, calling it “invading”
It does appear that way, and there are some cases of it happening, but doesn’t servers blocking hexbear solve the problem of people complaining about it, for people on hexbear?
I mean this was a .ee user complaining about seeing people they’re federated with, I’m sure they will be more happy in one of the more liberal echo chamber instances
One is also dying soon, check the meta post
