• grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
          10·
          6 days ago

          I’m an asexual prude, but I feel we were really close to a more sex positive queer world in the overculture of the 90s, but the consciousness wasn’t actually there yet to be cool with it

      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        6 days ago

        I don’t think there should be rules, provided the risque ads only run in publications targeted towards adults. This ad in Nintendo Power would be a problem. This ad in GQ or Maxim would not.

    • The Ramen Dutchman@ttrpg.networkEnglish
      1·
      8 hours ago

      Oh man, I remember these stick-on tattoos were such a thing here in the early 2000’s! Now I’m starting to miss those. Now I’m starting to wonder how many people actually got real tattoos of these back then?

    • otp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      Video game ads were wild around the 90s and 00s.

      The DS in particular was when Nintendo was trying to shake its “kiddie” image, but it’s handheld ads have been risqué at times since the original GB

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    7 days ago

    I can’t explain it, but that seductive early '00s look, which Elizabeth Hurley was also known for, got me jimmies when I was young.

  • Maverick604@lemmy.caEnglish
    47·
    7 days ago

    Regarding the fact that these ads promote playing games instead of having sex … umm, that’s basically what happened. Sounds crazy but, ya, young people are having less sex today, and the birth rate has dropped precipitously. You can list a dozen other factors that would impact this as well (economy, education, etc) but access to video games does seem to correlate. Sometimes correlation IS causation.

    • Maverick604@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      13 hours ago

      Well, a couple of points about my post that seems to have generated far more discussion than I would have guessed.

      1. I was being a little tongue in cheek, as anyone with any scientific understanding at all knows that “correlation is not causation”. And with a topic such as this, it would be almost impossible to isolate the direct causes for a) young people having sex and b) for dropping fertility rates.

      2. Sweden is only one country. Certainly not one that I was focused on (at all). Generally speaking, fertility rates are dropping amongst western (and Japan) countries. Of course there could be outliers. I don’t think that an increase of .1% is statistically significant considering the rates in some countries are about 1/2 what they were 50 years ago.

      3. the main point of my comment was that young people are having less sex today. That was an actual study. I’ll link it if in a find it again. In Japan, it’s gotten so acute that 50% of people in their 20’s are self reporting as virgins and 20% in their 30’s. That’s insane to me as a couple decades ago, Japanese people were considered by the west to be promiscuous. However, they were also considered the gaming epicentre at that time. So perhaps the effects take a decade or so to be noticed? 😉

      Or perhaps there’s no correlation at all.

    • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.socialEnglish
      12·
      7 days ago

      I don’t think this is true. You can disprove this by comparing the fertility rates to the popularity of gaming in different countries, for example in Sweden birth rates rose considerably between 2000 and 2010 despite gaming being an extremely popular pastime in Sweden.

      There are lots of factors involved of course but the largest ones are things like widespread access to birth control, being able to afford to raise a child and feeling like you live in a stable, safe environment to raise a child.

      • 1984@lemmy.todayEnglish
        27·
        6 days ago

        Its immigrants getting lots of kids. Its common with 4-5 kids. I think whats happening is that native swedes are having less children but because of immigration, birth rates go up a lot.

        Perhaps its possible to show this using statistics but probably not since they dont separate immigrants in those stats.

          • 1984@lemmy.todayEnglish
            13·
            6 days ago

            Just explaining the stats for sweden. Without those, birth rates would be going down a lot.

            • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.socialEnglish
              10·
              6 days ago

              I decided to investigate your claim because it smelled fishy - and yeah, you’re wrong.

              Foreign born women do have slightly higher birth rates than native-born women, but it’s nowhere close to 4-5 kids: between 2000 and 2010, native-born women had, on average, around 1.7 children each, compared to foreign-born women having on average, around 2.1 children each. However, because foreign-born women make up comparatively few of the Swedish population, this effect only increases the average birth rate by around 0.1 child:

              Furthermore, to hammer my own point home, income quartile has a much larger effect on birth rates, with the difference between income quartile 1 (0.9 births avg) and income quartile 4 (2.4 births average) having a much stronger effect:

              So, yeah, it’s not video games, and it’s not really a migration issue. As I said in my original reply, it’s a lot more to do with financial security and stability.

              • 1984@lemmy.todayEnglish
                19·
                6 days ago

                Good info but sadly I dont trust the official numbers here. As i am sure you know, misleading with statistics is very easy. “Foreign-born” is what they use here, and they dont include people who came earlier, and are now considered Swedish citizens.

                But still, good to get the official view! I had no doubt it would not show anything negative.

                • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.socialEnglish
                  5·
                  6 days ago

                  they dont include people who came earlier, and are now considered Swedish citizens.

                  That isn’t true. It’s just mothers who were born in countries other than Sweden. Even if they are now Swedish citizens, they are still considered foreign-born.

                  Good info but sadly I dont trust the official numbers here.

                  Yes, I was expecting you to say that. What’s your source, then?

                • silasmariner@programming.devEnglish
                  2·
                  6 days ago

                  Misleading with statistics can certainly be done in some contexts, but it’s harder to do that than it is to be wrong with just ‘I have a gut feel bro’. The breakdown by income quartile here is, like, directly the narrative that the stats are intended to support and clearly a larger impact that immigration because… Well… Quartiles are quite big…

    • Rhaedas@fedia.io
      5·
      6 days ago

      And 80s. The first 8 bit computers and consoles had lots of suggestive ads. They knew their market.

    • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.comEnglish
      10·
      7 days ago

      I wonder how much of that came from being a time when the ‘parental advisory’ type content was starting to become more common, but people’s content was also still pretty compartmentalized.

      Shows for kids where on at certain times on certain days, and these weird paper things called magazines where something you had to buy or subscribe to to view.

      Now, barring some kind of active efforts, people see what they want when they want all on the same Internet so advertisers kind of have to pull back to avoid getting attacked for putting the wrong messages out.

      • hzl@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        Genesis had a few more mature-themed ads at the time. They seemed to be trying to position themselves in a different niche from Nintendo’s more family oriented image.