Normies can be reached and memes help. I’ve already gotten some “maybe we were too auick to judge China” reactions when I point out they execute child molesters.

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      Lol why has my comment been removed? Its a fact that China killed its own citizens. Tiananmen Square Massacre.

      And just ask the Uyghurs how kind and nice this government is, or Taiwan, or Hong Kong. The U.S. sucks, Russia sucks, and so does China. Just because China hasn’t yet engaged in military action abroad doesn’t mean they’re the good guys.

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        Your comment got removed for misinformation/sinophobia. It says so right in the modlog. It’s all public information. Why act glib instead of responding directly to the point?

        Tiananmen Square Massacre.

        Wow that’s the first time I and everyone else here have heard about this thing, really crazy that it happened. Wild that noone talks about it. I did a little bit of digging though, and I’d love to hear your thoughts on what this person has to say about it

        just ask the Uyghurs how kind and nice this government is

        I think you yourself should ask the uyghurs what they think of the chinese government.
        There’s always some dumbass like you that brings up this long-debunked talking point that there’s nothing left to say. Here you go, some actual information for you to ignore I know you won’t read it though. You types never do. Go back to your echo chamber and complain about us being propagandised because we read stuff and don’t just regurgitate what we got told in AP history and skimmed through a wikipedia article edited by 7 nazis. Here’s someone else for you to ignore. Now go comment about how we’re brainwashed because we don’t take you and your decade-old debunked propaganda seriously. A third person to ignore
        I’m mainly pointing you towards these posts to make you understand why noone will take you seriously. It’s because what you’re saying is proven untrue - And also none of what you’re saying is new. It’s been talked to death. All the information is available out there, we’ve read it. You haven’t, you’ve skimmed a newspaper article citing a report citing an unnamed “expert” who interviewed an anonymous source. Whenever we actually go to first-hand sources the flimsyness of the claims becomes apparent.
        Also read up on Adrian Zenz.

        The U.S. sucks, Russia sucks, and so does China.

        Ahh the classic “neither beijing nor washington, but actually yes washington”

        Just because China hasn’t yet engaged in military action abroad doesn’t mean they’re the good guys.

        “Guys you see everything in black and white, you don’t understand the world is nuanced! There’s actually no good guys! This is the nuanced worldview, the one where we boil things down to ‘good’ and ‘bad’ guys, instead of looking at how nations materially impact the world and what their long-term goals are.”
        China isn’t a “good guy”. China is an everchanging political entity made up of its constituent masses. The reason people on this site generally are positively inclined towards china is

        • It is one of the few countries in the world with an actual functioning democracy
        • It is the only nation in the world to take climate change seriously
        • It is spending its vast resources on bettering the lifes of its citizens, rather than financing imperialism abroad and a totalitarian police state at home
        • The political foundation of China has created a framework that is much more conducive to progressive forces than anything you can see among it’s contemporaries on the world stage
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            Why the fuck would you remove an actual helpful comment refuting the dumbass lib? The comment you are saying you would remove is more helpful than a thousand shitty memes. You clearly need to touch grass.

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            Strugglesessions aren’t just when you respond to someone you disagree with.

            Breaking with the intentions OOP has for a thread is not against any of the rules of the site.

            If my comment has broken a site or comm rule, then it should be removed.

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                It isn’t a struggle session when a dipshit liberal comes in trying to derail the thread and people post a ton of correct information refuting their glib statement. Fuckin A it’s literally in the spirit of THIS POST because the point is agitprop. Chill and let people rip them to shreds. Memes are not going to change the world get over yourself.

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                Yeah, that’s how it goes sometimes. It would probably have been a good idea to choose a different meme if you didn’t want a bunch of pedants to be pedantic. It’s a public forum and discussions can go in all sorts of directions one didn’t expect from the outset. You did get a bunch of people to post memes though, if I were you I’d focus on and engage with that, rather than be sour your post got “the wrong kind” of interaction.

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        Tiananmen Square Massacre.

        Poopybutt Pissfall.

        Even if there actually was a massacre that day (there wasn’t), so what? China is clearly a force for good in the modern world.

        It’s so funny you types always revert to tinyman square as some sort of gotcha. China has made massive blunders in the past, yet you insist on focusing on something that wasn’t one. It kind of reveals how uneducated your ideological basis is.

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        Just because China hasn’t yet engaged in military action abroad doesn’t mean they’re the good guys.

        I’m gonna keep condemning the empire that has brought incomprehensible evil onto the world and not the country that “hasn’t yet”.

        In fact I’m gonna keep commending the evil empires main rival, which has made no mistakes that could reasonably be compared to the formers raison d’etre “”“yet”“”.

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            Thank you for your useless commentary in a thread th a t was bound to attract reactionary libs. Truly you are the most revolutionary poster for asking for asking for ant-uUS memes (which is cool and good) and then complaining about the people dunking on and debunking those reactionary libs.

            Log off/go outside/touch grass

            Do anything other than ehat you are doing right now ffs.

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          Small nitpick with your comment: do you have reason to believe HeiligerBimBam is a man, or otherwise ok with being referred to as “sir”? Because if not, in the interest of keeping this space safe and comfortable for people who aren’t men, it would be better practice not to use language that assumes the person you’re talking to is male.

          Sorry, I know this might not feel like the place for this nitpick, this thread is, after all, a meme thread, and calling someone “sir” is hardly a serious offense. Still, I think it’s worth using language carefully, especially since I know there are comrades who hang out on hexbear who would be harmed if someone thoughtlessly called them “sir” on the internet.

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          You are lashing out at people who are correctly responding to the person that started the argument by posting reactionary shit.

          It is starting to look like you agree with the reactionary since you never pushed back on them yourself.