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Linux
Reddit bad
Am I doing it right?
Overthrow the bougoisie
Cook the bolognese…
Bean
Jean
Beef stroganoff
It’s only us vs the billionaires! Don’t let them try to pit us against each other!
Anyone who owns more than two houses deserves to die!
Anyone who works X job is a bastard, no matter how much good they do.
No, I will not run for local elections.
No, I will not give up Xitter I need it to follow my niche artists despite them having accounts on multiple other platforms including BlueSky.
No I will not give up Facebook. I need it to poke meemaw and check the marketplace for things I’ll never buy or sell because Craigslist amirite?
At least all you twats use ETA less than they do on reddit. That bugs me way more than it should.
You know you’re also using the internet, right?
There’s also the part that is into crushing with a tank people who don’t hate the USA more than anything in the universe.
Honestly I feel like most people on here are just tired of the ultra-capitalistic hell neoliberalism threw us into and want a better system that doesn’t rape dry the Earth and doesn’t allow companies to have the same wealth as entire states. Those people you mention are just a very loud, screaming minority.
I’m part of these people, I think most of them are social democrat and don’t have any illusion about supposedly socialist countries.
Yes, they are a minority since .world became the biggest player, but they are still very visible if you mention those subjects and countries, they are going to pop up.
All those wanna be commies live in the USA too it’s fucking sad
I have trouble spelling that word, too.
dont forget star trek
And beans, for some reason.
Jeans too
Also, contemplating orbs.
And Denver Post subscribers
And the germans
SPRICH
DEUTSCH
DU
SPRÖSSLING
EINER
Live long, and may the force be wingardium leviosa!
- Capt. Jean-Luc Severus Skywalker
Linux, reddit bad, socialism and star trek are alright. The bean thing I don’t get. Never am I gonna spend energy learning about it either.
The bean thing I don’t get
I recall that being a thing on Reddit too for a bit… Just the internet doing its thing. People like random shit - it all gud.
Bagging Reddit is actually kinda discouraged, more Linux and communism. Or at least screeching about capitalism at every opportunity.
Yeah, for a website forged almost exclusively from former Redditors and especially ones who got burned by Reddit’s abysmal leadership, I rarely see complaints about Reddit on here – arguably far fewer than on Reddit itself.
The socialists are the native inhabitants of this land, the Redditors are the ruthless imperialist colonisers.
I’m half-Redditor, half-socialist. I hope I’m still welcome among those with a pure socialist heritage.
Or maybe the Redditors are refugees and the lemmy nativists have convinced themselves they are eating their pets.
Also make sure you double check if you browse by all and decide to leave a comment
what did you do??
Let me guess, you commented on a community nodded by the Lemmy.ml admin?
lol this is great. Sorry, non wannabe commies get brigaded around these parts
Yeah is is kind of wild. They act as if I killed the cat
It’s just a huge problem on Lemmy. Right now there isn’t enough content really to justify defederating so it’s like they are the weird family members than you can’t stand but have to somewhat tolerate
The problem is that they are on lots of instances now
bears eat beets. Bears, beets, “Battlestar Galactica.”
Beans!
You forgot the 100 comment posts on anything mozilla does
I use Arch, btw
I mean in one way. Yes, you’re fitting in and in another way - Stop talking about Reddit
Say Windows bad as well. We’re not allowed to use Windows for some reason… I use it, and I’m not sorry, but I really don’t care about internet doots.
Dear windows users
Not enough blaming capitalism for problems which have nothing to do with capitalism.
Plus space capitalism with the Ferengi.
Wait, where did this image come from? I’ll love this. Is this shen OC or is this an edit?
Started with this guy, then did my thing.
Dude you rock! Love what you did above
Holy fucking shit - amazing
And linux!
I mean, Linux (and the entire ecosystem) is a fundamentally socialist concept.
I would say GNU is one that’s openly socialist. If Linux’s (or rather, Linus Torvald’s) philosophy is socialist, they either do a very good job of hiding the fact or there is a lot I don’t know about them.
Wasn’t Torvalds’ dad member of communist party?
Unpopular opinion: “Open Source”, spawned from Netscape spinning off Mozilla, laid out in definition by the OSI organization, and advocated for by AnCaps like Eric S. Raymond, was always fundamentally capitalist. Devs spending a lot of free time doing free work for companies was not an accident. Capitalists borrowing ideas from the left and twisting them for their own uses is not new, either.
Free Software is more rooted in communism. You’re doing this to help your community. RMS might have always denied it–probably because it wasn’t a good idea to advocate that way during the Cold War and after–but it’s a better philosophical fit.
It’s past time to divorce the two.
angry spitting libertarian noises
And my axe!
…and Linux.
I realize we’re inherently not capitalistic platform because everyone has the access to own their portion. Pretty cool imo and not to toot the horn for the millionth time, it definitely seems like the future of the internet
Blud thinks this is Mastodon or smth
That’s the neat part. From my perspective, this *is* Mastodon.
Who?
I mean, I dunno. It’s been the “future of the internet” since the 90’s, but nobody can solve the fundamental problems with such systems existing in the actual real material world, so we just get hit with an ever dwindling supply of larger and larger social media monopolies. Same as it ever was.
My partner has been insinuating that I’m a communist recently. I don’t think I’m a communist, I simply want to seize the means of production for the people.
I mean… It’s one of the reasons I like it so much here.
Don’t forget about GNU and Linux mememery.
And Star Trek.
Wait, it’s all socialism?
Always has been.
Don’t get me started on Star Trek
Ok, I’ve never watched Star Trek and feel left out. Where do I start?
deep breath So I’m not the most star trek nerd by any measure, but I grew up watching the next generation (TNG), but also some of the original star trek series. And then deep space 9 (DS9) and enterprise. Also the one with the one which is not the enterprise and they got lost (forgot the name). But I’ve lost interest with the recent series. So not a uber nerd but I’ve watched quite a bit.
I think starting with the MOVIES of the first series is good. But also starting with the series of TNG is ok.
which is not the enterprise and they got lost (forgot the name
Voyager.
I literally started due to lemmy posts. I just went in order and watched TOS and TNG. Now I’m going through DS9. I’m really glad I did, because it’s amazing!
As others have said, DS9, Lower Decks, TNG, Voyager, are all great choices. Strange New Worlds isn’t bad either.
Now some potential dealbreakers: Lower Decks is a cartoon and heavily references other shows (but does explain most of those references), TNG is very libbed up and side-steps a lot of the moral questions Startrek is known for, Voy solves those questions with warcrimes, SNW tries to be too inoffensive and is very much directed at fans. I can’t think of anything bad to say about DS9.
Is there any order to watch Star Trek in or can I just pick any and roll with it. Will I be missing any important information?
Nah, no order.
When the shows bring in stuff from older shows, they explain it in episode, or you’ll figure out the gist of it from the framing, the writers themselves often hadn’t watched every single episode of the older shows.
I think SNW and LD are the only ones where the writers actually bothered to watch everything.
Lower decks! Lower decks!
Start with the original and tng. The beginning.
It’s okay it’s Spock-tember.
What about GNU+Linux?
Linux is just Socialism: The Operating System.
It’s also voluntarism: the OS, as it is entirely maintained by willing members of the community.
Honestly, probably moreso in most cases, as while socialism is fine with getting funding from taxation voluntarism sees that as coercive by nature, advocating for voluntary donations (time/money/labor) to help out the community instead. Some stuff was developed with tax funding for sure, and some directly by the NSA like SELinux iirc, but I think it’s still mainly private citizens/corpo donations and volunteers/people that get paid using those donations.
Thank you 5714! My new favorite word: Memerery
You don’t need to sell it to me, I already love it.
good. kind of like an anti twitter.
The socialists must flee what was formerly known as Twitter, now under the control of a totalitarian fascist regime ruled by a mad dictator, or face extermination, and are now refugees wherever they ended up on the Internet
it’s also currently known as twitter. even the madman calls it twitter and says tweet and shit. he’s so fucking dumb.
It’s currently known as shitter. Spelled xitter.
You are gonna love Mastodon
NZ? I hope I could go someday.
Didn’t he go to jail for sex crimes?
Oh God
Ahem, this is a community
What did you expect?
What’s wrong with socialism? I like socialism.
I want to seize the means of production as much as the next guy but it gets kinda boring after a while if that’s the only content available
Sometimes there are cats! That’s always fun! Some of those cats want socialism too, but they’re still cats!
It doesnt get boring hearing about how judges demolish bodily autonomy of women and commit other atrocities in the name of corporate freedom.
Ah you mean in the US? I see, well there’s also the rest of the world
Are you positive? I feel like I need a source on that
If this was memes@lemmy.ml you would’ve been banned for this comment
When you assume anyone complaining about .ml and Hexbear must be a liberal
There’s a massive overlap between being anti-Marx and being liberal. Doesn’t mean all anti-Marxists are liberals, but most are.
I consider myself conservative.
I’ll let myself out before this comment thread explodes
Conservatives fall under the umbrella of liberalism, generally.
It’s statistically likely, as is their inability to find the block button.
No it’s more likely that they are an actual leftist. China and Ruzzia are (and the SU was!) fascist hellholes that have nothing to do with socialism and/or communism besides screaming it of the windows all the time.
And people who delude themselves to believe something else are really annoying…
I agree in spirit! However the soviet union was neither capitalist nor communist, and fascism is a form of capitalism which means the soviet union wasn’t fascist, but rather something else entirely.
Fun fact: blocking a community doesn’t stop you from mentioning them in a joking manner elsewhere!
Tankies are authoritarians and therefore cannot call themselves socialist
For clarity, comtemporaries of Marx and Engels also called them authoritarian, hence On Authority.
I’m just sick of the fucking tankies telling me World War 3 will finally give us workers rights.
When you grow that third arm the production will increase by half by default…
Chernobyl was a long con to create production in order to cease the means of it.
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Nine times out of ten it’s incorrectly defined by idealists that haven’t figured out that a fair amount of American sociological and economic standards are already steeped in socialist services, and the rest of the rhetoric that defines socialism would absolutely fail if attempted in America.
In short, nine times out of ten, a socialist has absolutely no fucking idea what they’re talking about, but just parroting smug bullshit that they think makes them look edgy and educated.
a fair amount of American sociological and economic standards are already steeped in socialist services
If you believe this to be true then you don’t understand what socialism actually is. You seem to be of the mind that any publicly funded service or welfare is socialist, and I don’t blame you for thinking this since it is what the mainstream American political discourse would have you believe.
In short, nine times out of ten, a socialist has absolutely no fucking idea what they’re talking about, but just parroting smug bullshit that they think makes them look edgy and educated.
When you say this immediately after demonstrating that you actually have no idea what you’re talking about it’s a pretty bad look. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Drag thinks the means of production should be owned by the workers. Drag is curious why you think the American workers own “a fair amount” of the means of production.
Or they are arguing against democracy
socialism itself is just, kinda weird. From a philosophical perspective it makes sense and has clear distinctions. But from a practical view it’s just sort of. Capitalism but if it was more confusing for some reason. If you go too far into one direction, it’s just communism, and that’s not socialism, obviously. The other direction and it’s literally just capitalism, so it has to sit in this weird space between where you can’t engage with the best parts of capitalism (or it just weirdly handicaps parts of capitalism) and communism.
and then of course you’ve got people (probably grifters) like hasan piker who claim to be socialist while having millions of dollars, but doing literally nothing with it, because investing it wouldn’t be socialist, and you can’t really just give it away, because well, it’s a lot of money. I mean you could, but it’s also just, sort of redundant at that point.
Realistically he should be investing that money into a lot of different things, increasing returns on revenues, and creating a content creator collective or something silly like that, but to my knowledge he hasn’t probably because he’s either stupid or lazy. I don’t blame him for either of those things though.
socialism, particularly modern western socialism that’s based on capital needs a fundamental proof of concept work-through before we can really do anything with it, i think.
Capitalism, while it has problems, it at least makes sense on a fundamental human perspective. I own things, you own things, we own things, that also applies to capital as well. It’s so fundamentally tied to the human experience and history that it’s just sort of hard to deviate from. Even china does a lot of capitalism.
man that was much longer than i anticipated. Apologies in retrospective lol.
Anyway for the second part of the admittedly very old and dead joke by this point in the post. It’s a meme about socialism on the internet. (particularly a farther left space on the internet)
Very well said. Nice write up.
half of it is pretty schizo, but aside from that it’s pretty comprehensive i think.
I just hate how it is vilified when we literally freely give billions in taxpayer monies to oil companies.
Where are the posts about anarchism?
Also in the solarpunk instance :)
Thanks for mentioning that! 🖤
dbzer0 has a bunch, same with Hexbear.
Hexbear is a tankie instance
Edit: being anti-sectarian is not an excuse Edit 2: Because tankies are not socialists
Hexbear is anti-sectarian, it has Marxist-Leninists and Anarchists alike.
Why would anarchists associate with tankies? I don’t wanna share any space with authoritarians of any kind
It is certainly not without historical precedent. Anarchists were quite heavily involved with the Russian revolution for example, although many historical-revisionist marxist-leninists would prefer to downplay that.
MLs don’t downplay the participation of Anarchists in the Russian Revolution, at least not from what I have seen.
I appreciate that you don’t, I even have you tagged as “a polite marxist” so I must have had a positive interaction with you before, but many MLs I’ve debated before have downplayed anarchist contributions to the Russian revolution. I can understand how you might not encounter that very often since you’re not putting yourself out there as an anarchist.
Historically it has never worked out very well for the anarchists, so I would hope that they have learned their lesson by now
Point taken, but although it may not have ended well for the anarchists I believe their involvement in the Russian revolution was for the better since it could easily have gone in a much worse direction without them. Anarchists are always putting themselves in harm’s way to make this world a better place.
Ask the Anarchists on Hexbear why they’re fine with Marxists.
In my experience, Hexbear is a much less toxic instance due to the anti-sectarian rules. Someone described it as “less like a Communist Party and more like the bar Communists hang out at after the meeting,” which is both cute and accurate. It’s a nice atmosphere if you aren’t a liberal.
It’s a nice atmosphere if you aren’t a liberal.
Doesn’t sound like it would have a nice atmosphere for socialists or anarchists either
Edit: Also that place allows coordinated attacks against non-tankies, and the most troubling users from blåhaj ran to that place, so I’m not super impressed.
Doesn’t sound like it would have a nice atmosphere for socialists or anarchists either
Like I said, you can ask the anarchists and socialists there yourself. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, it’s a nice atmosphere, and I get along with the Anarchists there as well.
Edit: Also that place allows coordinated attacks against non-tankies, and the most troubling users from blåhaj ran to that place, so I’m not super impressed.
Mind explaining what you mean by “coordinated attacks?” And what do you mean by “troubling users from blåhaj?” People leaving one instance for Hexbear isn’t necessarily indicative of Hexbear being bad.
I have no idea what you are talking about, Hexbear is clearly a furry instance. It’s in the name!
And vegan drama that you really don’t want to get involved in.
