Cool…

This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.

Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.

      • @GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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        I wouldn’t trust a foil bag to do anything 100%.

        the only 100% way to not be caught is not bring it.

        it also provides an alibi. “see, my phone was here all day long.”

        • @MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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          I’m talking about an actual faraday bag, not a foil bag. That, combined with a powered off device keeps you fairly protected. They aren’t going to get into your phone if it’s powered off.

          it also provides an alibi. “see, my phone was here all day long.”

          There’s going to be a deviation in usage regardless, it’s not providing an alibi. A gap of time when you’re not using your device that you normally would be is a marker they look for. They key is keeping them locked out (again, power them off).

        • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I mean, a proper Faraday cage will block anything unless the US government has figured out how to break the laws of physics…

          • Jerkface (any/all)
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            A proper Faraday cage, a truly excellent one, just the most Faraday of all the cages, is easily defeated by physical attacks such as getting your phone cloned when you get mass arrested and summarily released on OR.

    • @arrow74@lemm.ee
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      I bring my phone. I likely won’t be breaking any laws, and I can afford a lawyer. So yeah arrest me and waste the system’s time. Just another data point they have to sort.

      And if it gets to the point where none of that matters we were cooked anyway

        • @arrow74@lemm.ee
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          Then as I said we’re already cooked. But also that is demonstrably false anyway. Our judiciary is under heavy threat, but still functioning

        • Echo Dot
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          Just go out wearing a MAGA hat. They only have small brains it’ll probably confuse them.

          Like how insects are always pretending to be wasps so they don’t get eaten, see it’s scientific.

          • @vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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            Or even just dress how they’d expect their own to dress, don’t even need a dumbass hat. I wear an old tan leather jacket and a Swedish combat cap which apparently translates to friend for them. Also applies to the anarchists though, they see my clothes as friendly.

      • @Saleh@feddit.org
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        Police issues a dispersal order, but blocks all routes to safely leave the area.

        Congratulations, you will now be charged as having committed a crime and good luck proving in a court that there was no realistic option for you to leave.

        Also police seizes your phone. Congratulations now they access your data and either go after people you have had contact with or they claim you to be part of a criminal organization as they pin other charges on people they found a connection with.

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          I doubt they will find anything of use. The most powerful thing I can do is slow them down. It’s the best use of my privilege

  • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    Shouting from a helicopter “Please disperse because we’ll come to your house and murder your families if you don’t” sounds like an actionable threat. And helicopters are difficult to fly on a good day. Would be a shame if someone up there had an accident.

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      And now the DEA’s got a chopper in the air,

      I wake up screamin’ like I’m back over there,

      I learned a thing or two from Charlie, don’t you know?

      You better stay away from Copperhead Road.

    • @bendovertherainbow@lemmy.zip
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      Someone I know is a military pilot. The green lasers were especially rough, because the light would get spread through the entire cockpit getting split up by the windshield, and even worse when he was flying with nightvision.

      … do with this information what you will.

    • @OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
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      Federal offense and highly illegal. They take this extremely serious. Whatever target you were before, expect and multiple time increase in tracking doing this. They will make an example of you.

      Source. Local police chases and FAA raids/reporting. Do not do this. You’d be better off finding another method.

      • @GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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        you know what else is illegal?

        • sending 500 Marines to quell a civil protest
        • deputizing police as ICE agents
        • yanking American citizens out of their homes because they aren’t white enough
        • sending Americans to a foreign prison system without trial

        I don’t give a flying fuck what they think is illegal anymore since none of them give a shit about the rule of law anymore.

        fuck em

      • @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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        Well there’s open source open hardware anti-air missiles.

        Also it sounds innocuous and green laser diodes cost 2$ so if everyone has them they won’t be able to single out anyone.

        Also when tghe copters are down, how are they going to track you? Drones, but that’s the real purpose of the laser CCDs fry much much easier than eyes.

        The surveillance state will not stop by beingpolitely ask but by being physically dismantled. The alternative is perpetual subjugation, the end of history, as far as you are concerned you become as useful and helpless as any other farm animal once this power becomes consolidated.

        Our democracy is fake because of first past the post, ranked choice is a red herring. Proportionnal representation or your children will live in work farms. Like every fight before, this is an existential crisis for your perpetual subjugation.

        They chose to make the sky a weapon, take the sky away from them.

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    Talking a whole lot of shit for someone riding around in a machine that will find literally any excuse to break down. Helicopters are sketchy as fuck, and even if you manage to autorotate perfectly to try and recover from a stall, you’re still liable to suffer severe or fatal injuries. It’s super easy to crash due to human error or some kind of mechanical failure.

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      A well kept helicopter is a reliable machine as any other, but it’s true that it’s probably a civil heli with extra cop stuff, ergo easy to down with some fuckery.

      • @tamman2000@lemmy.world
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        Even a well maintained helicopter is a safety nightmare.

        I started my career in aerospace at a company that makes helicopter engines and later I became a search and rescue mountaineer/EMT in a county with more helicopters used for SAR than anywhere else in the US. We beat it into our new members “never pass up the opportunity to turn down a helicopter ride”.

        The mountain rescue association tracks member fatalities and injuries. Helicopter accidents are, by a large margin, the leading cause of line of duty death in mountain rescue, and we spend only a couple percent of our time in them.

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          Indeed, one of the few mainstream machines where the smallest of human error, mechanical failure, or hell just bad unexpected weather, doesn’t just bring you to a stop, but a deadly rapid unplanned disassembly. Screw that.

          • SharkAttak
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            This simply isn’t true. When well piloted and maintained, an helicopter is a safe and sound machine, not a LoonyTunes gag.

        • @OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
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          Planes are safer. So is the ground.

          Helicopters can’t control decent in failure situations. Helos are a safety hazard period. I’m with the never pass up an opportunity to decline a helo ride crew above.

          • @tamman2000@lemmy.world
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            I mean, you do have some control during autorotation descent, but it’s at best an extremely hard landing if your pilot is really skilled. They build crumple zones into the seat mounts for them.

            It’s a pretty cool technique. You adjust your rotor pitch to let you fall faster which let you put/keep angular momentum into your rotor, then at the last minute before slamming into the ground you pull hard on the collective and turn all that angular momentum in your rotor into lift to make it so that you don’t slam the ground at full speed. You can manipulate the cyclic control (direction controls) during autorotation, but you’re spinning the whole time, so it’s very hard to guide an autorotation to a specific landing area.

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              You’re ‘spinning the whole time’ only if you lose the tail rotor, but in autorotation you’re basically gliding, please don’t mix stuff up. There are enough misconceptions about helicopters around.

              • @tamman2000@lemmy.world
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                Are you a helicopter pilot? I thought you rotated with power out, just not as fast as you would without the tail rotor. I could be wrong… I only worked on the engines and used them as a passenger. I’ve only flown sail planes…

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                  I worked as licensed body and engine maintenance and ground crew, and gone on maintenance and transfer flights. Basically autorotation is like on planes, when engines crap out you glide and aim to do an emergency landing, since the rotor isn’t a big fan, it’s a rotating wing. While descending, the rotor spins and allows the gliding while slowing down the fall, like maple seeds; when near the ground the pilot can use the residual rotation energy to make a soft landing, like you said.

      • Yeather
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        Good thing fireworks are easy to find this time of year.

  • GoldenQuetzal
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    Follow Hong Kong tactics and use umbrellas to shield from above.

        • @Corn@lemmy.ml
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          No, even in 1776, there were contemporaries who mocked a bunch of rich slave owners talking about freedom while stealing land from native americans. American freedom had always been the freedom for the ruling class to exploit the underclass.

        • dandelion (she/her)
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          correct, see for example the reactions to the US’s decision to invade and seize territory from Mexico, which was largely seen as a betrayal of liberal values that the country was supposedly founded on. Don’t worry, the US isn’t the only country to justify their revolution with promises of liberal ideals like freedom and equality only to expose their true priorities later (namely giving local colonial elites more power than those ruling monarchs in Europe). I recommend reading the chapter on Bolivarian revolutions from the history book Born in Blood and Fire: A Concise History of Latin America for more about the disappointments and failures of liberal revolutions to live up to their promises.

        • @Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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          To ad to others that already commented:
          Brutal colonialism and imperialism, Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Philippines to name only a few.

  • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    Can you imagine 6 dudes with AR-15s, nothing fancy, responding that that threat? One wonders what might happen.

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        Even armored helicopters are very vulnerable, flying things cannot afford to be sturdy.

        Flying oppressors beware, you live on borrowed time. Tail section, fuel tank, tangling hazards (steel wire spool, fast unspooling from above)

        They made tge sky a weapon, take away the sky from everyone. Same with radios.